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Ep 40: Building a Systems-Driven Advisory Firm from Engineering Careers with Thomas Barnes & Derek Keeney

Ep 40: Building a Systems-Driven Advisory Firm from Engineering Careers with Thomas Barnes & Derek Keeney
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What happens when two engineers walk away from decades in 24/7 manufacturing environments and apply that same discipline to financial planning? In this episode, Thomas Barnes and Derek Keeney of Nida Financial Group share how they transformed their careers from paper mills, breweries, and industrial engineering roles into building a highly structured, systems-driven advisory firm. Their story reveals how operational thinking, not traditional finance backgrounds, became the foundation for how they run and scale their business.

Listen in to learn how manufacturing principles like continuous improvement, KPIs, and succession planning can completely reshape a financial advisory practice. Thomas and Derek break down how they grew a firm managing millions in assets, built a recurring revenue model, and created repeatable systems for decision-making, client service, and team development. You’ll also hear about partnership structure, leadership alignment, and why treating a financial business like an engineered system leads to more predictable and scalable outcomes.

Discover how applying engineering-level precision, tracking data-driven metrics, and prioritizing the development of a business “entity” over a solo practice can create a scalable, sustainable, and lifestyle-oriented financial firm.

Key Takeaways

  • The Manufacturing Mindset as a Strategic Edge. Don’t view a background in heavy industry as a disconnect from financial services; treat it as a framework for efficiency. Tommy and Derek applied the discipline of manufacturing, using daily metrics and rigorous workflows, to the advisory world. By bringing a “nerd-level” focus to the data, they created a practice where results are driven by systems rather than guesswork. Use your previous career chapters to build a logical, process-driven environment that gives clients a sense of stability.
  • KPIs as the North Star for Growth. While many advisors operate on intuition, the team at NIDA Financial Group manages the firm through Key Performance Indicators. From tracking face-to-face time to monitoring daily activity goals, they treat the practice like a well-oiled production line. The lesson for independent advisors is you cannot manage what you do not measure. By identifying the specific actions that lead to revenue and client retention, you can scale your business without increasing your stress levels.
  • Building an Entity Rather than a Job. Scaling a practice requires a shift from a sole-proprietor mindset to a business-owner perspective. Tommy and Derek focused on building a lasting organization that operates independently of any one individual. Through proactive five-year planning and clear internal roles, they have created a structure that can outlast its founders. Focus on establishing a firm where the processes, branding, and culture are the primary value drivers, allowing the business to thrive long-term.
  • The Encore Career for Better Quality of Life. Transitioning to financial planning later in life offers a unique opportunity to design a “retirement career” that prioritizes balance. Tommy and Derek highlight the shift from the 24/7 demands of a plant manager, which often meant dealing with 3:00 a.m. equipment failures, to the consistent, manageable schedule of an advisor. For professionals looking for a second act, the advisory world provides a way to stay intellectually engaged and helpful to others without sacrificing personal time or family life.
  • The Power of Complementary Partnerships. Growth is often accelerated when you stop trying to do everything yourself and find a partner with a different skill set. While their mentor provided the networking spark, Tommy and Derek leaned into the operational and technical details required to run the engine. Success in a boutique firm comes from recognizing where your strengths lie and delegating or partnering for the rest. By dividing the labor between rainmaking and operations, you create a more resilient and profitable practice.

About Tommy Barnes and Derek Keeney

Tommy Barnes and Derek Keeney are partners at NIDA Financial Group in Cartersville, Georgia. Both transitioned into the financial services industry after successful first careers in engineering and manufacturing management. Tommy, a graduate of Georgia Tech, spent over 20 years in the textile industry before joining the firm, while Derek brought a deep background in operations and management. 

Together, they have utilized their technical backgrounds to build a process-oriented firm that focuses on comprehensive planning and data-driven results. They are members of the Integrated Financial Group consortium and are dedicated to helping clients navigate their own “encore” chapters of life. When they aren’t in the office, Tommy is likely spending time with his wife of 43 years and their three children, while Derek—who famously started his work life on the back of a garbage truck—enjoys a much-deserved slower pace with his family.

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